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May
2008
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Can You Ever Fold Kings Here?
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Sorry, poker content.  I know this is probably irrelevant in the zillions of hands we play, but do you ever fold this hand in a 6-max cash game?  With that betting pattern, I put him on that hand more than the majority of the time (seemed pretty rockish).  Regardless, I just cannot fold there.

PokerStars Game #17546356135:  Hold’em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/05/19 - 16:02:28 (ET)
Table ‘Appella III’ 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: pokerlarry ($50 in chips)
Seat 3: chipking33 ($39.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Peufje ($70.55 in chips)
Seat 5: csquard ($73.55 in chips)
Seat 6: johnyb41 ($179.30 in chips)
Peufje: posts small blind $0.25
csquard: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to csquard [Kc Kd]
johnyb41: folds
pokerlarry: folds
chipking33: raises $1 to $1.50
Peufje: raises $1.50 to $3
csquard: raises $4.25 to $7.25
chipking33: folds
Peufje: raises $63.30 to $70.55 and is all-in
csquard: calls $63.30
*** FLOP *** [9c 9s Ks]
*** TURN *** [9c 9s Ks] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [9c 9s Ks 5h] [Qs]
csquard said, “sweet”
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Peufje: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
csquard: shows [Kc Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
csquard collected $140.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $142.60 | Rake $2
Board [9c 9s Ks 5h Qs]
Seat 2: pokerlarry folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 3: chipking33 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Peufje (small blind) showed [Ac As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 5: csquard (big blind) showed [Kc Kd] and won ($140.60) with a full house, Kings full of Nines
Seat 6: johnyb41 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

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6 Responses to “Can You Ever Fold Kings Here?”

  1. Dr. Chako Says:

    Yes.

  2. sirfwalgman Says:

    Your a donkey. Haha. I would fold there at times.. it all depends on the player and table makeup and all that kind of thing. I would be more likely to fold if I knew nothing about the player since that does scream AA… if I knew he was laggy or would jam lower holdings then I would call.. It is really hard to lay down those kings though. Most people will probably say just call. I think we should strive to be better though.

  3. pokerpeaker Says:

    I just posted about this too, and at those levels, which is what I play, too, his action usually means A-A. It always, no doubt, 100 percent means it if the player is “rockish,” as you describe. I fold when he pushes all the time in that situation all the time now and feel good about it.

    Remember, Phil Gordon says “the 4th raise means Aces,” and he’s almost always right.

    Still, tough hand and a cooler, and no one really faults you for getting it in there.

  4. willwonka Says:

    Nope… Can’t fold them. That could have been Queens just as easy. Unless he is just a super nitty person, I’m calling.

    Come on Peaker.. at our levels 4 betting can mean anything… even 4 betting all ins.

    I have to agree with our buddy Dan Harrington on this one… Never fold Kings…

    Especially in a heads up situation.

    Having said that, what is the worst thing that can happen if you fold? You lose $7. Not the end of the world. Sure, $70 hurts; but I’m calling here.

  5. Fuel55 Says:

    Villian does NOT have AA here more than 50% of the time. Never fold KK.

  6. TanOrpheus Says:

    Nope, I couldn’t find a fold there either

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